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tinaballina



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: a note for DWA Reply with quote

A note to our friends at DWA,
I think its a low blow to serve papers at someones place of work.
I read some of the paperwork and i think it is ludicrous you are trying to make an example out of us back before i was even born.
Its sad you killed so many trees to copy and paste screen shots of TR's from this board, did you stop to think about that?
I also wonder if marajuana gets taxed-does this mean you will be taxed as well??? I sure hope so.
It is sad that all we wanted to do is climb a mountain and this is the result of it. I went above and beyond-literally-to go around your property, you claim we still tresspassed-MARK YOUR PROPERTY WITH A F*&$ing FENCE. I shouldn't need a map, you need to mark the whole parameter.
I have speaked my peace.....for the day at least.
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Hikin_Jim



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They served you I take it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeppers, the docs are a bunch of bs. its all the posts we made on paper...really? if i was trying to hide something i wouldn't post it in the first place. these people have a lot of time on their hands.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What am I missing here?

For years, people have traipsed across DWA land to do the Snow Creek climb. They have posted countless trip reports, pictures, etc. No effort whatsoever was made to take action against all of those folks.

Now, in 2010, several people go out of their way to do the climb without trespassing on DWA property. They are rewarded by heavy-handed legal action by the DWA. Yt, they have evidently done nothing wrong.

Again, what am I missing here?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:
Again, what am I missing here?

DWA's side of the story! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're mad as he|| and they're not going to take it anymore. Unfortunately, they're lashing out at the wrong people.

It was getting out of control with people scheduling trips right out in the open on MeetUp, etc.

Again, though, they're picking on people that are easy targets but unfortunately aren't the ones trespassing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:
What am I missing here?

For years, people have traipsed across DWA land to do the Snow Creek climb. They have posted countless trip reports, pictures, etc. No effort whatsoever was made to take action against all of those folks.

Now, in 2010, several people go out of their way to do the climb without trespassing on DWA property. They are rewarded by heavy-handed legal action by the DWA. Yt, they have evidently done nothing wrong.

Again, what am I missing here?


Alan, we are all missing it. They threw all those people that I don't know into this lawsuit....again, really???

maybe they are my long lost ancestors and i don't know it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:
They're mad as he|| and they're not going to take it anymore. Unfortunately, they're lashing out at the wrong people.

It was getting out of control with people scheduling trips right out in the open on MeetUp, etc.

Again, though, they're picking on people that are easy targets but unfortunately aren't the ones trespassing.

OK, they get the part about "punishing the innocent." Do they have the part about "rewarding the guilty" down as well?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hai guys. can't wait to try out my new route. took a lot of time to map out. maybe do a few loops. hopefully plenty of fresh water for drinking / showering etc!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL @ Ze, where does your new route start?
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pdforeme



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the "old days" there used to be trout in snow creek.

wonder if the EPA cares about the manmade stuff DWA is doing

we should let this wetland/fishery revert to nature
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like it starts at the village Tina...goes right up the road...gotta get them to post signs though so you dont accidentally go on their property

ze, were tryin out that trip this weekend, will lyk how it goes. still planning on august ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinaballina wrote:
yeppers, the docs are a bunch of bs. its all the posts we made on paper...really? if i was trying to hide something i wouldn't post it in the first place. these people have a lot of time on their hands.


Just out of curiosity - is what they 'served' you an actual lawsuit (stamped by the clerk of the court and requiring you to appear in a Riverside County courtroom, etc) or is it a notice requiring appearance at an 'administrative hearing?' Look at the documents closely to determine which it is since there's a big difference between the two.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF you would like a copy of it pm me your email and i will forward it to you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like a copy -- I can use it if I run out of TP.

Would you like a copy of my new bumper sticker? "I ♥ DWA"

HJ
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